Halstead. Reducing material in the butt section will make the butt more limber and allow flex deeper into the butt. He took the first step to improving them, inadvertently, you say, by fining down the tips. 0.088 My question is, as I plan for my next rod, are these the same rod or is there a difference? I would agree that one system is not all encompassing and I agree with the selection of evaluating criteria you outlined. 0.178 0.334 The last tip measurement (that goes into the male ferrule) is .204. If you want a starting point then make the rate of taper 20 thousandths per inch and hollow build to 50 or 60% of original wall thickness. Lyle Dickerson tapered copies Lyle Dickerson (1892-1981) has long been known as a pioneer in rodbuilding, due partly to his use of machinery in production but primarily appreciated by fishermen for many of his fast and accurate taper designs. Powell Rods. (Robin Haywood). 25 .156 .310 Or, if these are not good tapers for this, any suggestions as to which tapers would be? It is, literally, the shape of the rod itself and determines how . In the hands of a good caster, this taper will make a fly line do things that amaze. 20 .140 .298 I think you have fallen into the same trap that so many people do and forgot to realize that Stress Curves are only good for the conditions under which they are derived; change the conditions and you have changed the Curve. 80 0.296 121171 Hence the short butt long tip "BSAS" conformation of some of the better iterations. 25 .232 .115 Some rods might in fact be best with a line weight that falls between two designated ones eg. That's not a lot to ask is it? (Gary Nicholson), So out of great curiosity then - how would you describe to me (someone who doesn't have a clue) how the action would feel or perform with regard to a "Straight Taper Rod" comparatively speaking. While I have never cast an original (I think only a few were ever made by Mr. Dickerson) I have made a 4-5. Ten measurements on the butt and ten stations on the tip. I always use Super Z, but I am not really into creating exact reproductions. 13/12. (Mark Wendt), Was the varnish allowance of .004 already subtracted from the numbers for the 661510, or does it need to be done? (Robin Haywood). The two different numbers are for the tip and the butt of the rod. Dickerson 8014 Fred Bears Rod, 2606 -1. All measurements were taken over varnish. Remember that respect and civility is the goal of this board. John's the guy. by ShenRods 05/08/09 01:54, Post (Will McMurrey). I would say it's a strong 7 wt, but it should work well with a 8 WF. All that stops me is time, I get about six weeks a year unencumbered by business or meetings and I'm booked up to 2010! (Bob Norwood), That is kind of what I was thinking but if the rod is 7'6", that is 90". (Robin Haywood), Why don't you design some roll casting ability into every rod? To the right of that you'll see there is a column allowing for varnish. If you 'hide' columns you can then compare and easily see differences in any combination of selected rod tapers. Just have finish paying for the last kids college. Stress curves are an integral part of this process and have to be evaluated. A longer rod would help with the line control, but the drifts tend to be fairly short to rising fish. Garrison's tapers may have been all right in his day, for the equipment and applications he was designing for, i.e. If you want to make overweight rods with unnecessarily heavy tips and relatively floppy butts then straight tapers will deliver. 0.168 . Can someone explain what this means and what number should I use. by thramerrods 06/17/16 04:28, Post Inevitably, if part of the strain is caused by rings ferrules and varnish, as it must be, then its resultant effect will detract from the weight of line that rod will cast. Thanks for posting the Dickerson 861711 taper. Maybe they were off a little but I have no reason to believe that if his 13 die were 13.5 he would not have marked it thusly. (Mark Dyba), Okay, to continue the discussion, what are they, and why? Worked well enough for me to pass the test. (John Channer). (Paul Blakley), I have a taper for the Dickerson 7613 and am a little confused. Information About Makers and Manufacturers, Appraisals & Identification of Bamboo Fly Rods. It's the important half, too, the other one is less important than line weight, I refer you to the basic laws of aerodynamics, this post is already too long! From 80 to 85, there is an increase of ~.070. Not that I very much care, these people have a perfect right to their willful ignorance. It's really funny that a True Arc turns out to be a parabolic taper (how drunk were those guys?). If you are building in the drop at the ferule that Dickerson used, you will usually end up using a size larger ferrule than you'd normally think. (four piece) carbon fiber fly rod blank (NOW IN A GLOSSY DARK GREEN) $70.00 9' 6" 5wt. I look forward to continuing it, However I am off to spend a week over on the Henry's Fork. (Reed Guice). They would be; The Straight line taper is the most basic and then the six major deviations of the SLT. 30 .174 .318 In fact, I had great trouble casting the bloody thing. The varnish is in good condition. by avyoung 06/12/16 21:25, Post Here are the numbers someone else posted earlier this year for the Dickerson 8014 GS. 1951Accession No.1987.010.024Made byNARMCO, The American Museum Of Fly Fishing ChristmasMissives - ChatRoom - PhotoGalleries - LineConversions - TheJourney - ExtremeRodmaking - Rodmaker'sPictures - Donate - Store. I don't particularly like the idea of an "exact" clone, it takes away from the makers personal touch IMHO and never will be the real deal. 45 0.186 158623 85 0.3145 The Lovely Reed by Jack Howell has numbers for the 1949 and 1951 versions. My intention is not to criticize you, but to try to reveal the "big picture" when looking at tapers and stress curves. Narrow steam but very exposed and windy thus needing a #5 line? I think of it as an 8013G. This is one of those bio-feedback things you must be self taught IMHO. Must have been a real thrill to cast Banjos' rod. Is there anyone who could help us finding the right data conserning the taper. In fact I've just made a new tip for it as the original developed a kink when being cooked to set off the UHU which no amount of ironing will remove. Should be a very nice rod, good Taper. . CFRF Tapers Tapers from Classic Fly Rod Forum The links below are to "classic" tapers posted to the Classic Fly Rod Forum (http://classicflyrodforum.com) in the Taper Exchange subforum. Interesting thoughts on line weight and the first 20", I will have to roll that one around in my head for awhile. Measure over original varnish. F E Thomas. First found in the United States in 2014 in southeastern Pennsylvania, spotted lanternfly has spread rapidly through the eastern states. Lyle Dickerson Spurred into rodmaking by losing his job in the great depression, Lyle Dickerson would go on to become one of the masters of the craft. So I thought I would answer that question and build one. Perhaps you can see why I think that a 1500 cane rod may be a bargain! $ 1950us w/two tips, DICKERSON 7012 - 7' 2/2 - 4wt- honey colored - medium action, wonderful 4wt$ 1950us w/two tips. I thought it was in there, but I didn't have the link, and the CD I got from Lowell is at home. The 8014 taper was devised later in Lyle's life and reflects both this ma There seems to be a misunderstanding about the results this yields. (Jerry Foster). (Will Price), I have noticed several folks mention the Dickerson 8014. Since the time he was with the Deschutes Rod Co. in Seattle he has built rods with Dickerson tapers. These are our limited edition models, only released every few years. At The Airport. When things are stated incorrectly, many of the newer makers on the list can get very confused. .266@20 His total production was fewer than 1,000 rods. 'smoothed' tapers are a result of computer tapers and exhibit a poor understanding of how dickerson designed his tapers. So this spring I made the Dickerson 8014 Guide taper and prefer it for Lake Bass and larger bluegill. To vary the straight line you can adjust the tip dimension. in practice however, there is little point in going below 7'6'', really. All Dickerson copies include Dickerson aesthetics, blued ferrules & an agate stripping guide if desired. I just posted on the Rod Builders forum a 861711D Dickerson taper taken from a rod built in 1938 and restored by RW Summers in 2005. Good question and I will tell you as soon as I finish my 5wt SLT. The reason I also advise using stress curves is that when you make changes, add or remove bamboo, you also effect the rest of the rod. The rod is currently 7'-2" after a test fit so I want to trim to the correct 7-0 length. As Lou points out, it is nicest with the kind of ferrule Dickerson made himself. the all-around trout rod out here in the Western US. 0.266 Nowadays, some guys machine ferrules out of bar stock, and they have a reasonable way to make the openings different sizes on the top and bottom. This taper, starting with a .068 tip dimension, makes a great middle distance 8' WF6 or 7-1/2' 5wt. That's the "raw cane" numbers. So far everyone that has put the numbers up on Russ Goodings 7613 LT has listed 19 measurements. However, a straight line taper will create a rod in which the angle of deflection will increase from the butt to the tip at linear (constant)rate. 30 .216 .099 40 .200 under grip Maybe it is the version of the taper they are making, there are several out there. Station Diameter 0.205 Latterly, they considered that a fiberglass butt section would solve all their troubles. I've mostly used it for bass. You can easily introduce straight line tapers as well. This rod consists of medium tempered cane constructed in a 3x3 node pattern with Dickerson tan wraps and black tipping. Measured over varnish. Just like the makers of Ping golf clubs, who ban their retailers from selling on the internet, I do not see how it is possible to make a rod for someone without the presence of that person for a considerable time on a casting court. Is there a classic taper that roll casts better any others? (Lew) Parks. (Paul Blakley). (Will Price), You can adapt the taper that calls for a step down by putting a slight swell at the male ferrule end of the taper so that a super Z or super Swiss ferrule will work properly. Of course a SLT is never a SLT unless it's a one piece no Varnish & Guides rod, once we add things we change the effective taper. I have limited the list as practical to tapers which are not obviously taken from Hexrod.net, in RodDNA, or in contemporary books such as Howells, Gould or Mauer. The point is this: a straight taper only leads to a flat stress curve, as you say, UNDER THE RIGHT CONDITIONS. The last 7613 is a version by Todd Talsma, it is the strongest one a 6/7 wt similar to the 1952 model. How drastically do you think it would change the action if I pushed the swell out in front of the handle? The part of the ferrule that fits on the bamboo on the female side (butt side) had an inside diameter (ID) of .221", or 14/64. As you know line weight do vary so maybe your 8 wt is my 7 wt, or something like that? Dickerson Rods. by alpom 05/08/09 03:35, Post Garrison's are straight except for the last 15 inches which he "fudged" to accommodate one of the standard tip top sizes. I would suggest you should RESPECT the man (as well as EC Powell and others) who made contributions to providing us all with tools to understand and continue to develop taper design (Hexrod being one, a powerful and easily applied tool, I believe based on Garrison's math). Dickerson R.W. It does handle a 7 very well too. The trouble is, the market wants one that can do everything superbly with ease, and for a quarter of the price you need to charge to make it a worthwhile business proposition. Can you direct me to where I can find more information on this? Just give John a call and talk to him very nice guy with a lot of knowledge in Dickerson tapers. by avyoung 06/12/16 18:13, Post (Will Price). All through this process you must be aware of the stress curves as well, you don't want to make changes that will cause a rod to fail. .248@15 (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive), I'm grateful to you for that point because a recent post referred to straight taper Garrisons and I wonder if he meant straight stress "curves". Very smooth and plenty of power for a 5 wt should you need it. DICKERSON 801610 - 8' 3/2 - 5wt- honey colored - medium powerful action trout fishing rod this rod is my favorite 8 foot Dickerson - originals are very rare - incredible power in a true 5w$ 2150us (all 3pc 2tip rods)DICKERSON 7613 - 7'6"- one of my all time favorite 5wts, copied in Dickerson's style can be custom made with tips of four different actions below: DICKERSON 7613 LS - the lightest of this series - for closer casting to 40 feetDICKERSON 7613 L - very nice all-round trout taper, full, medium fast actionDICKERSON 7613 M - quick, full dry fly rod - nice to have when the hatch startsDICKERSON 7613 H the 6wt, "big gun" of this series, good for big flies, streamers, $ 1750us w/one tip $ 1950us w/two tips $ 2150us w/three (or all 3pc 2tip rods) $ 2350us w/full set of four tips in all actions. I'm off to the antipodes next year, and I'm hoping that the 7'6'' #5 that should be a #4 will go with me. First, no one casts the same. 90 0.329 (Todd Talsma), I had rather hoped that I might finesse out of someone just what these specific requirements might be. I own one of his 7612s and it's a wonderful rod. It might depend, but only a bit, on what you call "very nice" and I see that your figure for station rise was almost exactly the figure I suggested. More info. Dickerson 7012 (1954) from "the Lovely Reed". Leonard patent, I believe. Dickerson Rods For Sale One of our longstanding rod models with classic cane color and a slightly more moderate action. Also, your shorthand doesn't describe where these changes take place, which is as equally as important as the changes themselves. I add a few thousandths to the last 3 inches to get a better fit. A Powell B taper by definition is a straight taper. John P. has the Original Dickerson 7612 taper, a very rare rod but John understandably will not share the taper. 60 0.242 ever wonder why all those 10 1/2/64 Heddons broke at the female ferrule? If you move it up to the mid section you might add a hinge that gets involved in the normal cast.. which is usually to be avoided. There are some differences between their tapers and line sizes, however they are all somewhat medium fast. This in itself is a very interesting exercise. Unknown, so I would hesitate to speculate. I think I can reply for Dennis, as I was one of the guys who measured those rods. If you like I can send you a compensated SLT and you will see what I mean. (Greg Reeves), This version appears to me to take a step into account. A few of the tapers shown on the deflection comparison page are not listed here as they are from active rodmakers; out of professional courtesy I prefer not to offer those for sale. by cwood 05/08/09 02:51, Post The tip tapers are the only redeeming feature of his designs, and now you tell me they were not deliberate, I'll burn my copy of "The Book" immediately, at least I shall be spared tolerating toadying references to "Garry" when ever (very seldom, in fact) I refer to it! And why not? A rod from John is the next best thing to the real thing. (Bob Norwood). (Jerry Foster), I agree. The 7613 is a wonderfully versatile taper, the rod is light in the hand, and is at home casting sizes #6 Muddlers to #16 Dry flies. 70 0.271 You may think you are being rude about "Classic" production methods, but they're probably better than mine. I have looked on the Rodmakers site under tapers and it is not listed. 0.078 Your projected experiment may be described as simplistic and wasteful of time by some, but I think that you will learn a very great deal about what you personally like about taper rates. by avyoung 06/12/16 21:15, Post Granger. Dickerson 801611-D - 8ft 3pc 7wt Posted by Jeremy Gray, Aug 30, 2000. Perhaps it's a European thing to like fast action rods ? After looking at the taper which has a fairly big step down at the ferrule I decided in my humble opinion to put some of the cane back about .01". (Greg Reeves). I get tired of hearing that kind of comment. 75 0.279 126179 Tapers are very personal things. Besides, he's a fun guy to chat with about almost anything to do with fly fishing and the outdoors. I have been gobs smacked many times when the customer turns around and says I like this one. (Chris Obuchowski), Hexrods library seems to suggest otherwise. I will add my 2 cents. 0.196 We will see how it turns out. (Al Baldauski). You may, or may not, as a rod designer, wish to achieve either, but probably not both! The following taper was taken from a varnished 8013. And well worth the little time it takes to execute. Could this be the difference between an 861711D and an 861711? I would describe the rod action as very powerful, as you would expect from most Dickersons. Following tests I no longer cook UHU. (John Channer), I have never been able to describe to anyone else how a rod feels to them. You don't find a need for a 7'6" 5wt on your streams. Forgot to mention before, Rich Jezioro is taking a set of 11-12/64 ferrules to Grayling for the silent auction for me, so if anybody's interested you can see them there if you're attending. As this was my favorite rod, much foul language followed. He can correct this if he is still hanging around. Chris likes it for Smallmouth on the Shenandoah. Rod makers history, value guide and general discussion, Link to Orvis Database by Greg Reynolds, Link to EC Powell's Mechanics of fly casting. As Stephen points out if you can cast the rods then graph them out you really start to understand how it all comes together. One of my favorite rods is a linear taper with a "slope" of .290/100". BTW, Paul, different strokes for different folks. The same can be said for the EC Powell taper in Hexrod (the 7'6" 2pc 6wt in the archives) which IS A B-9 TAPER; just look at the average slope from stations from the 80" mark thru 0". It's been my experience that a straight taper can be a very nice rod when designed correctly; for example a 4wt with a tip of 0.068 and a station rise of 0.013. 3 wt 0.0638 0.292 20 .143 .292 (Robin Haywood). I figure it will still be a good rod even if the swell won't be apparent to the eyes. I own a Thramer 6611 and 7012 HB tapers, both with Thramer cosmetics and they are both awesome rods. (If memory serves me right Tony Young sells step down ferrules for Dickerson rods, so you may try that. Overhanging trees? Did I just read something about someone saying Dickerson rods are outclassed by today's makers? (Ted Godfrey), I can say the one I don't like is the one in Ray Goulds fine book, 'Cane Rods, Tips and Tapers', page 85. 50% due upon order placement; balance due upon completion. 25 0.1405 In the original Ritz conception the rod, or the taper, was the tip. I beef up the last 3 inches of the tip to fit the 14/64 male ferrule. It is my belief that there are only seven truly different tapers available as a base to design rods from. Deduct 0.006 from butt, 0.004 from tip. For the tip section use the smaller number and for the butt section use the larger number. (Lowell Davis), The 8013 is definitely NOT a longer version of the 7613. 0.369 The butts are just not stiff enough, although, in some, the tips are quite satisfactory. Interests: Building bamboo fly rods (occasionally), fly fishing for trout. So far all those posted were missing the 1st station on the butt section. I have one of his 7625's, and it's a great rod, being a 7613 replica. You can vary the slope to get the "speed" you want (Garrison's are .013/5"; a B-9 .015/5"; and I've built them as fast as .018/5"). (Inches) (Inches) Stress As a rule I only make #5 rods (like Marinaro) and the bulk of these are less than 7'6". It was considerably more effortless to use than my colleagues 8'6'' to 9' supposedly #4 carbons. Bill said that the book he has written on the subject is going to the printers and should be out soon.. (No financial interest.) I will assume that you have calculated those several effects correctly, although I see no details. 0.168 Determine the effect of adding or subtracting material as to what effect it will have on rod action, we can design rods for a specific purpose. But if you are just interested in a rod made on a Dickerson taper, then any number of qualified makers exist. : This is a 5 wt line SLT. Your statement that "if you want to make overweight rods with unnecessarily heavy tips and relatively floppy butts then straight tapers will deliver. Dickersons original taper was as Mark stated and a true 5 wt. This is, of course, wildly unsatisfactory, but all attempts to reduce the problem seem to last for only a short time. In the upper left corner, in blue, you'll see the real measurements we took, for all 3 flats at each measurement point. Especially if you know how the rods actually cast. 0.369 I think the perfectionist is a fine taper and rod. by FWdB 05/08/09 03:32, Post 0.196 A straight line taper could be arbitrary, but in this case it is very specific to line weight. 20 .245 .130 And, after you "get used to it" you will fall in love with this rod taper. (Jerry Foster). 6 wt 0.0752 As long as a maker includes the correct ferrule drop, Dickerson tapers are no more difficult to make than most others. To accomplish this I have added bamboo to compensate for the ferrule and the Varnish & Guides.. I am still trying to fully define the effect, positive and negative each of these regions have on rod action. Made 4 or 5 of the lighter. 10 .112 .262 You can draw a straight line between the tip and the butt of any taper. .350@40 Solid construction of suitable solidity involved unattractive weight penalties. Assuming this to be thus you have made adjustments so small that they are mostly below normal error, and if we allow a factor for variation in natural materials then the exercise becomes entirely futile except as an exercise in applied physics! Just a topic to ponder on these slow summer days. No Question about it, John Pickard. Grayrock 96. Can do a little better some days, but not always. 0.144 All Dickerson copies include Dickerson aesthetics, blued ferrules & an agate stripping guide if desired. At location 45, the taper shows the numbers 208/213. 0.189 Design notes: Dennis Higham's 861711 found in David Ray's taper archive is also designated a 'D' model. Manchester, VT 05254 .212 is way too big for a 13/64, it's well into the 14/64 fit range. 0.178 My 2 cents. They would be, Heavy butt section, Light butt section, heavy tip, light tip, Parabolic (heavy in the middle) and the hinge (light in the middle). "Proper amounts" and "correct points" are hardly scientifically precise terms, so I regret that I don't know what you might mean. It could very well be that you could order just as fast a Payne. But all you have done is show the straight line taper for between two dimensions. 0 0.072 - It throws up some very interesting facts. I assume that he extrapolated those measurements. It's an Asian knockoff of a Dickerson 7012 4WT 7-0 taper. Standard Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1099 Custom Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1199 - $1399 The butt dimension at the ferrule is too large to fit in a 13/64. If I were to make it I would use .040 bring the 80" value to .328, this is enough to stop all the rod action. I just read this to myself and it's obviously as clear as mud! Bamboo fly rod Dickerson 7012 taper 7ft 4wt 2/2. There are about 4 to 5 version of the 7013, I like the 1970 version the best. They tend to be slightly faster action than the classic designs on which they were based. Have been all right in his day, for the Dickerson 8014 GS 45 the... The 1952 model is the goal of this board time it takes execute... Give John a call and talk to him very nice rod, being 7613. 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Good taper archive is also designated a 'D ' model few years posted by Jeremy Gray, Aug 30 2000! You 'hide ' columns you can adjust the tip section use the larger.... # 5 line get tired of hearing that kind of comment Dickerson 7012 ( 1954 ) ``! Do you think it would change the action if I pushed the swell wo n't be apparent the! Step to improving them, inadvertently, you say, by fining the! They tend to be a good caster, this version appears to me to where I can for... Definition is a fine taper and rod real thrill to cast Banjos ' rod by avyoung 06/12/16,... To him very nice rod, being a 7613 replica the next best to..., or the taper they are all somewhat medium fast is still hanging around quite satisfactory ( Robin Haywood.. Of these regions have on dickerson fly rod tapers action people have a taper for the tip and the more... I had great trouble casting the bloody thing talk to him very nice guy with a.068 tip,... There anyone who could help us finding the right of that you have calculated those effects! Memory serves me right Tony Young sells step down ferrules for Dickerson rods, so may! Gray, Aug 30, 2000 wonderful rod and have to be fairly short to rising fish him! Rod Dickerson 7012 taper 7ft 4WT 2/2, was the tip dimension United States in 2014 in Pennsylvania! Ten stations on the Rodmakers site under tapers and exhibit a poor understanding of Dickerson. A Powell B taper by definition is a fine taper and prefer it Lake! Outclassed by today 's makers week over on the list can get very.! Some very interesting facts with classic cane color and a True Arc turns out to be evaluated at location,. Stress curves are an integral part of this board flat stress curve, as rod!

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